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Michael Voris -- Claws Out on "Pope Benedict's Fingerprints"



Voris: Now Okay to Criticize Francis

As the Bear watched the Vortex "Pope Benedict's Fingerprints," he was shocked at what can only be called vitriol toward the Pope Emeritus.

The first thing that struck the Bear, though was Voris' saying that Pope Benedict piled up the dynamite and Pope Francis lit the fuse. He also admitted unspecified "problems" with Pope Francis' papacy. So the "don't criticize Pope Francis policy" has been dropped, at least to that extent.

You Missed Hitler Youth, Michael

Most of the Vortex was a hate-fest toward Pope Emeritus Benedict. Voris was brutal in condemning Benedict for "abandoning" the flock to "wolves he himself let in." (Ironically, Voris included Pope Francis in this pack of wolves.) Benedict was also criticized (along with St. Pope John Paul II) with creating many of today's troublemaking cardinals. Including the biggest troublemaker of them all, Jorge Bergoglio, whom Voris mentioned by name.

The SODDI Defense

So now that the that defense of Pope Francis is no longer credible, Voris opens phase two: deflect the blame to Pope Emeritus Benedict. Oh, and also to ignorant bloggers who have no "secular experience," whatever that means. (The Bear has secular experience in print and radio journalism, as well as law.)

In defending Pope Francis, which seems to be the one and only mission of Church Militant TV now, Voris implied that Benedict lied about his health to get out of the papacy, called his retirement "possibly immoral," called his retirement a "cataclysm" that may take centuries to fix, said Benedict as a father, abandoned his children, and blamed the whole Synod on him, not Francis. The classic SODDI defense: some other dude did it.

But what was truly shocking was what can only be called disgust, even hatred directed toward Pope Emeritus Benedict. Anticipating objections, he gleefully pointed out that Benedict was no longer a pope, so he could say whatever he wanted about him. However, unless Michael Voris knows for a fact that Benedict was in good health when he resigned, he may very well be committing sins of calumny and detraction.

Sometimes you have to wonder about Michael Voris' health. He is capable of a good show, but, every once in awhile, we get a bizarre rant. Maybe he needs a new producer. If Terry Carroll still reads this blog, Mr. Carroll, the Bear respectfully tenders his opinion that we've had a couple of very strange Vortex episodes lately. Something is wrong, and it's showing.

Personally, the Bear liked Pope Benedict XVI's bear on his coat of arms, but he was always the German theologian. Some love him for making it possible for some to use the old liturgy, but the Bear cares not for such things. The Bear remembers not caring for his Jesus books, but could not say why, now. The Bear liked Pope Benedict, because he seemed to be popely and relatively conservative. He was not, however, the man the hour seemed to call for.

The Bear thinks it is hilarious that Michael Voris is protecting Pope Francis by blaming Pope Emeritus Benedict for opening the door by first advising St. Pope John Paul II to make him a cardinal; then secondly by retiring, and making his election possible. Yep, Pope Francis may be a snake, goes this argument, but it's all Pope Benedict's fault that he was permitted to slither onto the throne of Peter.

As a defense, that doesn't pass the straight face test, Michael. Even if someone buys it, all you've done is create two guilty men. Juries are cool with that, and will punish whomever is available.

From someone with a whole lot of secular experience.

Comments

  1. I too, am a huge fan of Benedict XVI, humility personified, all this hatred towards him, something is off with him (Voris)...To lay the problems at the feet of one person, is very disingenuous.

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  2. I stopped watching the Vortex about 2 months ago and have let my premium account run out. I don't need more negativity and rant. He is coming to speak to a city near me and I have gone before to hear him as he proved quite knowledgeable on holy things but this time I am going to pass.

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  3. I do not think that he is laying at the feet of one person. He mentions both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict. I love those popes, but I agree with Michael Voris. They put all these people in place.

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    1. Most of the episode was devoted to Benedict. Let's stipulate for a moment that there were good reasons at the time to believe that Kasper, et al. would come be troublemakers. How does that relieve Pope Francis for all his decisions surrounding the synod, not to mention the other problems with this valid but often frustrating papacy? Voris is inept at the art of defense, but, who knows? Maybe his shell game will sucker people in?

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    2. soon as francis put kasper back in power i knew bad things were ahead. i think with the both JPII and benedict, typical of conservatives is they're/were honest men and even though disagreed with the left still thought their voices should be heard (that and JPII's people and congregation for bishops from my understanding was pretty independent when it came to appointments). this is opposed to lefties who of course have no tolerance for opposing views.

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  4. To me, this "Vortex" episode addressed something that had been an elephant in the living room since Benedict's resignation: that is, the lingering mixture of grief, incomprehension. fear and yes, anger into which that resignation plunged many of the faithful, and the deeper crisis into which it sadly has plunged the Church. Voris's words didn't strike me as brutal or expressive of hatred toward Pope Emeritus Benedict, so much as just honest about something painful.

    And I'm glad to say that the observation that Benedict's health does not seem to have deteriorated did not come across to me as snide, but rather as a matter-of-fact acknowledgment of something that, again, probably has crossed the minds of many of the all-too-human people who are still hurting. I'm sure that Benedict would be the first to understand that.

    Having it pointed out to us that John Paul II and Benedict elevated to prominence many of the prelates who have been abusing the Bride of Christ brings a welcome -- if tough to hear -- reality check and fresh perspective on the devastated landscape that we have been contemplating with anguish. And after months of Voris's being castigated by people frustrated by his unwillingness to lay a glove on the Holy Father, I would guess that this breakthrough "Vortex" must be a relief to him as well as to many others.

    Voris can't be expected to please everyone all the time; he has displeased me at times but I respect him and above all, I worry about his ability to withstand the pitfalls that come with increasing influence and a growing "fan base" -- as well as sheer physical and emotional exhaustion. I actually feel that this particular "Vortex" was, all things considered, something of a triumph,

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    1. I'm not going to argue with the endangered species: the Last of the Woodland Creatures. I did re-read my piece as I considered your position, and I don't have a problem with anything in it. Especially the part about the health of Pope Benedict. Unless he has evidence, he should not suggest Pope Benedict lied about his health. And breathing doesn't count. That was beneath someone who advertises himself as sort-of a journalist. Nor do I think that we were guaranteed a Francis-less future even had Benedict remained. We'll never know. All we know is what we have, and how we were massively defeated at the synod what with gay marriage and polygamy ;-)

      Good to hear from you, as always, Jane.

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  5. I think your post in paragraph 5 has a typo in the first line "defending". ?

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    1. Probably. I think I fixed it. Thanks. It is nearly impossible to adequately proofread one's own work while fresh.

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  6. I believe Michael Voris is becoming unhinged. I, too, let my premium subscription lapse.

    There is still much mystery surrounding the resignation of dear Pope Emeritus Benedict. Michael should be very, very careful of demonising this holy, intelligent and lovely man who in my opinion will be sainted one day.

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  7. I have only seen a couple of his videos over the years. I don't really become devotees of Catholic messengers. We're all laypeople just having our say. I don't consider him any authority any more than any one else I suppose.

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  8. It's difficult to understand the mode of thinking of the people at CMTV. They refuse to state what is obvious to all regarding the present pope even though he does the exact same thing that they excoriate others for doing.

    In other words, they attack a person based, not on what he does, but on who he is.

    After Francis is no longer pope, he will be attacked, but not until then. Isn't that what they're doing with Benedict XVI?

    Seems warped. I believe it shows a sign of desperation to be attacking Pope Benedict XVI.

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  9. I loved Pope Benedict. I mourn the loss. However, I become unhinged myself when people start criticizing his resignation. I believe he humbly handed himself over to his enemies. Something the Master might appreciate. Something we might not understand for awhile.

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    1. Exactly how I feel sisterbernice! He was trying to make the liturgy a little more in line with tradition, and correct some of the flaws of the Novus Ordo Mass. And I remember reading that he wanted to continue along this vein. He also encouraged the TLM and wanted it brought back into more regular use. Something that Pope Francis would NEVER do. And I think you are spot on with the fact that we will not understand what happened to make him resign, but in my heart of hearts, I do absolutely believe that he thought it would be catastrophic for the Church if he did not. Yes, he did HUMBLY hand himself over to his enemies, I believe with all my heart. I love Pope Benedict, and include him in my prayers as I'm praying also for Francis.

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  10. Eh, Benedict is a liturgical conservative but still a post-conciliar liberal. Maybe he has changed since then--or even tried to reign in the revolution a bit, but, he's still the man who called for the "razing of the bastions of the Church" (Les Principes de la Theologie Catholique - Esquisse et Materiaux, 1982). Who unabashedly announced that Gaudium et Spes was a counter Syllabus [of Errors]. He's a man of the Council.

    The only "hermeneutic of continuity" that makes sense in light of Paul VI's, JPII's, BXVI, and Francis' pontificates is the continuity of the post-conciliar revolutionary babbletalk and contradictory newchurchism.

    That said, I would much rather a Ratzinger than a Bergoglio, Wojtyla, or Montini. I like him. Some part of me hopes Francis' pontificate is invalid and he is still pope. That's a whole different subject, though.

    Perhaps Michael should focus on the man cracking the whip at this three-ring circus show.

    Parenthetical note: three-ring circuses are cruel to bears... which makes them bad. For everyone. Especially the children.

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  11. I wonder how many subscription cancellations have occurred over the last year? While I am reading about CMTV when it makes headlines elsewhere.. I have lost interest in even playing the videos.. including the one mentioned above. Thanks for the critique though, keeps me up to speed on the latest rants!

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  12. I love Benedict XVI. I miss him terribly. But maybe Michael is on to something here. We've been, I've been in denial. October 2015 happened because of February 2013. We need the truth now and we needed it then. If our Papa was under threat or the Church or others were because of his presence, could he not have told us from the window at the Angelus? Would we not have stormed St. Peter's? Bergoglio is a problem, a big problem, but Benedict and John Paul II put these men there.

    Have we been in denial?

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    1. It's never made sense to me. Catholic Faith is about unified action across the ages and this action stands out as bizarre, unsupported by Tradition and without adequate explanation.

      Then comes Pope Francis and regardless of our feelings about him, no one can deny the radical, epochal change between pontificates and the entire Church Tradition. His closest supporters announce this proudly as a feature, not a bug.

      I think often of the man most responsible for attracting me to the Catholic Faith. I shake my head in wonder at it all.

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  13. I haven't watched MV for a very long time, though I confess to reading the transcript of the above video, ever since he started to demonize the SSPX. As a journalist, he must know of the Vatican's non-demonizing and conciliatory stance and must also know that he is at odds with that. With his current SSPX obsession and coupled with the above video, he must also now realize that many others have lost confidence in what he reports.

    I wrote a commentary on what I called the "divorce vacuum" (link below) and placed MV within its grasp, as it has so many others. I believe he is still caught within a vacuum - divorce or not - and simply cannot extricate himself. He is either unable to or unwilling to, and so continues to flail about. This time it is against BXVI...who will be next?

    http://hector1088.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-divorce-vacuum-michael-voris-and.html

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  14. Vorris did the same bizzare thing when he got his radar lock on SSPX a couple months ago. Seems everytime he goes after any other traditional Catholic of any stripe he derails. Like that fruit cake priest of his.

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  15. I commend Mr. Voris for his "rant," as you would call it. Let's face it, the unprecedented abdication of Pope Benedict has caused untold damage to the Church and to the papacy itself. We were told he was going blind in one eye, that he may have been dying, and that he wanted to remain "pope," but in a more contemplative way. Francis would be the active pope, as Benedict stated in his retirement speech, while he would not put aside the Petrine ministry but would practice it in prayerful seclusion. When people asked about why he still wears the white habit of a pope, he responded that there wasn't anything else in his closet. And so we had to get a "younger" and "stronger" man for the papacy, so they chose an older Jesuit who's missing half a lung. Voris' point is that Benedict, who never kisses Francis' ring by the way, was and is a man of the recent council. That is, he is a liberal, but a liberal with certain sympathies towards the "old" Church which he helped to damage. Voris is right to state that the present crisis is not of Francis' making, but has been in place for decades now. We have had very liberal popes. As Benedict stated in an interview two years ago, his theology is the same as that of Francis. The two are, by enlarge, the same in their thinking. Benedict still plays his piano...he visits with many people...he lunches with Hans Kung...he helped write an encyclical on Faith (which was written with four hands as Francis admitted). And yet we were told that he had to step down humbly due to his age and health concerns. Well, that was nearly three years ago. Visitors to Benedict state that he looks good. His mind is as sharp as ever. He has a twinkle in his eye. A pope has never, ever resigned due to old age, and if they did quit due to growing schisms or total incompetence, they went back to their former rank. Benedict still thinks he's pope and Francis never calls himself pope. We live in strange times and Benedict has made them stranger. Some call it humility when he stepped down during the Year of Faith, but it could very well have been cowardice. He begged us to pray that he might not fall prey to the wolves. Well...the shepherd walked away and the sheep are scattering.

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    1. "And so we had to get a 'younger' and 'stronger' man for the papacy, so they chose an older Jesuit who's missing half a lung."

      THAT was too funny! You just can't make this stuff up.

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    2. I have to agree, I sort of understand why dante put celestine in his hell, i look at benedicts resignation and i just see cowardice (a very strong word but I cant think of any other) instead of bearing the cross he retires to a comfortable life. and now we have francis, and the papacy has become a gnostic joke with a strong peronist aftertaste.

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  16. I think Mr. Voris is going nuts because he's worked himself into a corner. He or his paymaster won't let him criticize the pope so all he can do is go after poor Benedict.

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  17. Seems to me Pope Francis is making a lots of folks a little crazy. But I think in Michael's case, despite his bizarre behavior, at least has his critical category correct. Popes do have something to do with the problems in the Church. For Michael this is a revelation. And, to be honest, many others, too, including myself. Before Pope Francis came along I never gave much thought to calling out Popes on their behavior or doctrine.

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  18. I enjoy a good rant as much as the next traddy, and Michael "Mophead" Voris frequently provides them for my pleasure. But a professional ranter needs to have a sense of humor about what he's doing, and at least a bit of self-deprecation. I realize that, for the traddy/conservative/orthodox-ish Catholic, the situation seems fairly bleak and the natural reaction is despondency or bitterness, but God's own reaction to the nations rising up against him is laughter (Ps. 2). Mightn't we do the same?

    Have a smoke. Sip a bit of chilled Chartreuse. Do not let the sun set upon your wrath.

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  19. Voris takes his stand, and then looks for events past to give those positions 'credibility' and misses obvious and significant things in the mean time. We have had enough of agenda driven media, haven't we? Isn't there someplace we can ask for objective reality? Something has been wrong with Voris and his procedures, his reporting and his positions for a long time, I think his only appeal is that his 'opinions' are shared by many and few are willing to voice them in media. Opinions are MERE opinions and not facts, however, and the facts are what SHOULD be driving Voris and nothing else.

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  20. Michael Voris was making the point about who appointed "bad" Bishops and Cardinals. Why not comment on that? It was a mistake for Pope Benedict to abdicate. He was given a cross but would not carry it further....

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  21. Michael is a inconsistent on this point. He gave very good reasons for not critizing the point (which you can agree or disagree with, but they were logical), but then he turns around and criticizing past Popes (contradicting his reasons and pushing people to have doubts in the faith).

    I think the key problem is the modern Papacy itself. IMO, I don't think any Pope can avoid the problems the past few Popes had to deal with....not without big changes.

    Up until modern times, the Pope's role was not to micromanage the Church....it was to confirm ecumenical councils and deal with crises. Most lay people's and Priest's contact with the Church universal was their bishops so we got some truly scandalous Popes, most people didn't even know about it. As such, the Pope's job could be managed by one person. But not any more. Things are seriously broken and it won't be fixed until either bishops can once again be the standard bearers or the Pope can restructure the Vatican to quickly react to and deal with crises, and there must be serious consequences for non-compliance.

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  22. I read the Vortex--but I don't like it nor do I care for some of the bizarre rants I see every now and then. Benedict XVI may no longer be the pope--but he is entitled to the dutiful respect of the faithful for the great service he rendered to Christ's flock.

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  23. Certainly, the problems did not begin with Pope Francis, I think everyone acknowledges that point, the problems in the Church go back way before Popes Benedict XVI and John Paul II...one could argue they at least go back to Pope Pius X....(but that's for another day)...I could agree, that the Papacy does need some transformation, but with Bishops' like these, who needs enemies?

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  24. Michael Voris did a Vortex titled "Rome Has NOT Spoken", which was a Backdoor shot at Pope Francis, including the latest Cheap Shot at his punching bag of the moment, the SSPX, who "Pope" Voris was declaring to be in "SCHISM."

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