Sunday, January 10, 2016

New Translation of Francis' Celebrating Heresy Video

For a funny, and truthful, take on Pope Francis' Celebrating the Heresy of Indifferentism video, see the hilarious new translation.

It looks like we might have a Pope who is a formal heretic. What's not to laugh?

It occurs to the Bear that there is a distinct hokey New Age vibe to the Pope's video. It's like he's channeling his spirit animal or something. "The llama of llight says you are all children of God, dear ones. Believe in love."

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"Dear children, my dear apostles of love, my carriers of truth, again I am calling you and gathering you around me to help me, to help all of my children who thirst for love and truth—who thirst for my Son." (September 15, 2015.) At least the seers aren't shilling for Buddha. Maybe that's why Pope Francis dissed them. They make him look bad.

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11 comments:

  1. That is funny as hell and Franciscus is peddling a mundane Masonic Creed - we are all brother of the one God who has sent different avatars tooestablish different paths back to our common celestial home.

    Yay Masonry!!!

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    1. It's got Masonic fingerprints all over it, with a heavy wash of New Ageism.

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  2. Priceless. Says what the Holy Father was too protective of his posterior to express in words. He chose instead to let those visuals get the message across.

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  3. I guess the serious question is, can the video in its entirety be interpreted in any way other than a promotion by the Pope of the heresy of indifferentism? In other words, do we have convincing evidence at last that Pope Francis is a formal heretic? So what now? Does he cease being pope?

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    1. Ed Peters explains that heresy is a very specific term in canon law, in the context of Archbishop Cupich's actions. He believes that Cupich has not reached that point, and therefore it seems unlikely that Pope Francis has. Here and here.

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  4. Alas, Elizabeth, I am not comforted. This is not like +Cupich. We are not trying to glean heresy from actions. Pope Francis is patently denying, in the most persuasive way possible, that one becomes a child of God only through baptism and reception of Christ, and the adoption by the Father. He is saying, in the most persuasive way possible, that all religions are of equal benefit because they all believe in God (debatable in Buddhism, anyway) and "believe in Love." The image of four religions presenting their sacred symbols together is a powerful visual representation and summary of the whole production, which is pure indifferentism. You cannot separate the visuals from the text, any more than you can in the German propaganda video The Triumph of Will, that I used as an example earlier. This is, in fact, not only heresy, but heresy promoted with slick propaganda. This is all done under the authority of Pope Francis using the excuse of presenting a monthly intention. The Pope owns this 100%.

    I would love for someone to convince me that what I am seeing with my own eyes is not a denial of Catholic truth, that it is not indifferentism on stilts. But sadly, it is of a piece of Francis' obsession with interfaith and ecumenical dialogue and joint actions. How long ago was it that the Church issued a document saying Jews had their own track to Heaven that did not involve acceptance of Jesus (who was nonetheless mysteriously convenient as a kind of impersonal salvation mechanism that was never explained.)

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    1. I largely agree with you. I will add that many religions, Islam for example, certainly do not believe that all people are children of God. Is it even possible that Pope Francis does not know that?

      But for him to be a formal heretic, and especially to cease to be Pope, would be a matter of Canon Law, and I think should be left to those who are competent in that discipline. Dr. Peters considered Archbishop Cupich's statements as well as his actions (both extremely disturbing, as he pointed out) and flat said that according to Canon Law +Cupich is not a heretic.

      One other tangential thought: according to St. Faustina, Our Lord repeatedly told her that the time of Mercy will be followed by the time of Justice. Now that we have an official Year of Mercy, I wonder what will happen when it ends?

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    2. You're being sensible. I have a suspicion that there is nothing Francis could do that would cause the Church establishment to call him out. As with everything else in this pontificate, the sheep are on our own, trying to separate the BS from the dwindling expression of Catholic truth.

      I am not exactly saying Francis is for sure a heretic. I don't have that authority or expertise. But in the "interior forum of my conscience," I'm have a real hard time with this. And don't forget, a Bear's nose is 700 times more sensitive than a human's. And the Bear doesn't like what he's smelling.

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  5. Hey Bear---enjoy this vid. Don't worry---nuttin sede about it. ;-). Happy Feast of St Hyginus whoever the hell he is.

    Seattle Kim

    https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=VIAXbVe0OJQ&u=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTXZv9DDCBYw%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

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  6. Hmmm that youtube address didn't come our right. Trying again.

    Seattle Kim

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXZv9DDCBYw&feature=player_embedded

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  7. I guess we have a choice besides praying: fight or flee. At the moment fighting makes more sense. Right Bear?

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