Wednesday, August 5, 2015

Game -- Who Said It?

UPDATE: Answer

Catholics enjoy an "exalted status."

1. The Council of Trent
2. Pope Francis
3. Vatican II
4. St. Josemaria Escriva

You may leave your guess in the combox.

"All the Church’s children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged."

Lumen Gentium. (Vatican II.)

(The Bear has observed that the only persons at risk of Hell under Lumen Gentium are Catholics.)

The "pastoral" council, was not to be "negative" like Trent and others before it. That was the experiment, anyway. It avoided clarifying doctrines by use of the anathema. Instead it issued long, rambling, ambiguous documents which, moreover, were necessarily compromises. If you read them according to Pope Benedict's "hermeneutic of continuity," they do not force Modernist conclusions. Unfortunately, they don't necessarily rule them out, either. It would appear that the experiment was thus not successful. This is not necessarily to reject the Council, but to recognize its unique place in Church history.

The Bear doesn't sweat Vatican II too much anymore. Whatever (if anything) is binding, the Bear gives his assent to, to the extent he can discover and understand it by a reasonable application of Bear intellect. Most of the problems since then are not directly linked to the documents themselves. Vatican II provided the cover for what can only be called an attempted Modernist coup d'etat whose outcome remains in doubt to this day was not clear until the Papacy of Francis.

[Originally appeared February 8, 2014]


  1. How about E. Fr Feeney?

  2. I'm going to venture that it was the Council of Trent.

  3. Bear, I know because I cheated. I'm a Troll--what did you expect?

  4. 2 or 3. Probably 2. Oh wait, maybe it's 2 AND 3. Francis is Vatican II, after all.

  5. The V2 ambiguity was deliberate so that it was easy to twist the prose. That makes V2 dangerous until officially clarified, which Peter the Roman will do after the schism. I enjoyed your updated ending.


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